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6/6/2007 10:00:00 PM Email this articlePrint this article 
Red light violation? Fight it!
Arlene Jones

I was going through my mail the other day when a return address caught my attention. City of Chicago - Department of Revenue. Now, I love this city as much as any other kid who was born and raised here. But I also have a personal philosophy that I try to maintain. Pay the city no additional monies at any time! Yup, I'm cheap like that!

I have won all but one of my appeals with the city over parking tickets. So I was ready for whatever was in that envelope.

But I wasn't as ready as I thought. The bright red heading had the words most dreaded by anyone who opens a letter from that city department. Red Light Violation! The infamous red light violation taken by the cameras when you run a red light. The camera that the city says "doesn't lie." Now I've read about the horrors of that kind of notice. Legend has it that it is the one ticket that you cannot beat. At last count, the city was raking in over $37 million a year in fines. That money I am sure the city is using to make sure we don't have pot holes in the streets, or to offset the pesky property taxes that they seem to love to raise.

A "$90 #&@! ticket" is what I said. Yes, I used the kind of language that St. Peter will hold against me on Judgment Day. As I unfolded the notice to see the photographic evidence of my crime, I immediately became perplexed by it all. The city had sent me their definitive pictorial proof of my crime, but I can't say for sure what my crime was!

In the first scene, there was the corner of Narragansett and Irving Park. 6:49 in the morning. Not a soul in sight. The overhead light glowed bright red. There are no vehicles in the picture. Wait a second! The city's wonderful camera system has taken a picture of an empty intersection!

The second photo shows my truck, in the right lane. My brake lights are on. I can see the crosswalk in front of my truck. I can even see the bold white line in the street. Hmm, looks to me like a perfect Illinois Rules of the Road stop at a red light. The last photo shows a beautiful close-up of my license plate.

This will be a violation that I will contest. But first I have to go to one of the city's locations. If I go to Chicago and Kedzie, there is plenty of free parking, a line that snakes out the door and no metal detectors to pass through. If I go to 400 W. Superior, there's no parking lot, empty lines and I must empty all pockets and succumb to a body search because of the metal detectors. Well the decision was easy. Damn my Fourth Amendment rights to unreasonable searches and seizures! I'll take the metal detectors at 400 W and be done in a flash!

So I'm contesting that ticket. And of course I expect to win. While there, I decided to check on a parking ticket from October 2006. I had gotten a ticket for parking too close to a fire hydrant. I contested the ticket and waited to get a card to go before the hearing officer. Well I waited and waited and never got a notice. I had last checked on that ticket in December 2006, so I decided to check again. And guess what? Six months after applying for a hearing, the officer who gave me the ticket has yet to turn it in!

Now one of the reasons I had contested that ticket was that the violation seemed suspicious to me. I even have pictures of my truck and a measuring tape to prove that I was one inch further away from the minimum that the law states. When I asked why the ticket couldn't just get dismissed because the city doesn't have any proof of the violation, I was told no. If the ticket is not in the system, they cannot send me in to a hearing officer to have it dismissed. Ok. So if I can't have a hearing because the officer failed to turn in the ticket and the ticket is not in the computer, what would happen if I wanted to pay the ticket? Oh we can accept the payment, the woman told me. We have a special fund that we put the money into and when the ticket finally shows up, we'll credit the money against the ticket.

I finally got a hearing notice for the end of this month on the red light violation. After winning the hearing, I am going to ask the city to reimburse me for my time and travel expenses to fight their phony ticket. I think $90 is a fair amount. And before someone writes in and tells me I could have just mailed in the facts to contest the ticket, I tried that years ago. The city claimed it never got the proof, doubled the ticket and made me pay.

CONTACT :westside2day@yahoo.com





Reader Comments


Posted: Thursday, August 19, 2010
Article comment by: Sou Vang

I got home today and noticed that there's a letter on my computer desk from Sacramento county photo Enforcement Program. I didn't know what it is...so i opened it and noticed that there were 3 picture of me in my car which it was taken last thursday of this month when i was making a right turn on a redlight on a street near my house. I don't know what to do...? Making a right turn at a redlight...how's that turn out to be a redlight violation..? I'm confused because according to what i understand in the DMV handbook we can procees or make a right turn at a redlight. Is there any ways i can fight it. ? I need help. ....please let me know what i should do. my name is Sou vang.

Posted: Thursday, April 01, 2010
Article comment by: Minnie

I travel down ROberts Rd and 107th street. Twice I had to make a left turn on 111th and Roberts rd because I couldn't use 107th. I have now two Redlight Violation notices sent to me. I viewed both videos and I knew for a fact that there was no sign that indicated no turn on red or otherwise. I know that I stopped crept up to the intersection to see if there was oncoming traffic and than proceeded with caution on both times.

$200.00 dollars, this is insane. I know that every town is hurting for revenues but this is ridiculous! Who do I talk to so they can explain to me what violation has occured on both incidents!

I don't have time to go to court and if there is a legit reason for these tickets, explain it to me so that I do not get fined again. We the people need to understand what your new rules of the road are when you can turn on a red light. Let us know what we need to do when there is no sign indicating that we cannot turn on a red light after we have stopped. Twice in the same light. THere is something wrong here!

Thanks for reading


Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2009
Article comment by: Hanifah

Israel Velazquez,

It is not the same everywhere....no other city in the United States will steal you blind and not care whether your eyes are open or not....will inconvenience you to steal your money will lie to you to steal your money will manipulate a situation to steal your money change the laws to steal your money spend your stolen money to hire people to figure out other ways of stealing more of your money. True to form...Chicago, IL has never not been theives....these politicians lives would be totally incomplete if they did not devise ways and means of screwing the residents....they are addicted....junkies... they drool and twitch at the thought of manufacturing the "methods to steal" the "game plan" but this is not enough... to complete the cycle they must have the "hit"....HOW MUCH DID WE STEAL, CURLY, HOW MUCH? HEHEHEHEHE!! SLOW DOWN MOE...I TELL YA....I TELL YA... oh what a feeling.....jubilation..... for the time being....until they again need to feed their sickness...to use its' residents relentlessly to feed their freakish and all consuming addiction. These are the freaks that operate the great City of Chicago....A 2016 Olympic....surely you narcissistic neurotics jest!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one wants you....lying theives.....no, Israel, i beg to differ....i've seen and been to different cities, states and this greedy dirty nasty joint is the worst...2016 Olympics......LOL


Hanifah


Posted: Sunday, April 05, 2009
Article comment by: Laura

I received a ticket turning right on a yellow light not yet red. what would be my chances of fighting and winning this ticket?

Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008
Article comment by: Jose Pacheco

I myself got a red light violation on irving a narragansett,the sign says no turn on red from 7am-7pm.They send me the notice & the time of the violation says 12:43 am.Whats funny is i remember this and i knew i was gonna fight this but they mistakenly gave me the time.I am now awaiting there reply.


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